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One-on-one tackling the Galaxy Note 3 (N9005) - the good, the bad and the ugly side of the Note

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    Standard One-on-one tackling the Galaxy Note 3 (N9005) - the good, the bad and the ugly side of the Note

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    One-on-one tackling the Galaxy Note 3 (N9005)
    - the good, the bad and the ugly side of the Note

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    Einführung / Introduction

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    Standard Einführung / Intoduction

    Einführung:
    Es gibt genügend gute Reviews [Reference articles] über das Galaxy Note 3 und seinen Vorgänger Note 2 jedoch werden diese selten korrigiert oder um neue Informationen ergänzt. Es fehlt nicht an Benchmarks oder die von Samsung veröffentlichen technischen Daten, oder Informationen zu Apps und Oberfläche sondern relevante Daten zur Technik und dem Betriebsystem und APP, die man zwar im Web finden, aber oft nur schwer verifizieren kann, z.B. welche Global Navigation Satellite Services (GNSS) werden unterstützt, GPS oder auch Glonas oder auch Baidu, welche Versionen haben die Interfaces z.B. die MHL-Schnittstelle, oder welche File-Formate werden unterstützt?
    Auch wenn das Galaxy Note 3 aufgrund der komplexen Hard-, Software (z.B. Voice Control) und APP‘s nicht auf alle Details eingehen kann, findet Ihr hier meine Erfahrungen und Informationen die ich seit Oktober 2013 verifizieren konnte. Ich habe alles bewußt in Englisch zusammengefasst, da eine Übersetzung beim zitieren von englischsprachigen Quellen Zeitaufwändig ist. Aus dem gleichen Grund habe ich, auch wenn ich es ein paar Tage versucht habe, nicht als Review sondern als zusammenhängende Posts in einem Thread geschrieben, wodurch das 1o1 auch in Zukunft ergänzt werden kann.
    Dieses 1o1 ist Open Source, jedoch erwarte ich, daß wenn Teile zitiert oder verwendet werden, dieses 1o1 als Quelle zitiert wird, genauso wie ich die von mir verwendeten Quellen am Ende zitiert habe.
    Wer im 1o1 fehlende Informationen oder Details ergänzen kann möge dies bitte im http://www.tabletclub.de/smartphones...x-q-and-a.html posten, ich versuche dies so rasch wie möglich zu ergänzen.
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    Introduction:

    There are enough reviews on the Note 3 available, that cover/focus on the usual topics like benchmark, camera and OS and integrated Samsung APP. Once written reviews get seldom updated, which is a shame since limitations often disappear with updates to the Operating System or software used, and sometimes even hardware upgrades in later revisions of a model. This can completely change the value of older versions making them suddenly a good deal, or not in case of the Samsung Note 2 which received also a region lock with Android 4.3 update.
    Unless they are useful for marketing, many details on technical and Android aspects are not available from Samsung, e.g the hardware of the Global Navigation Satellite Services (GNSS) supported. Is it only GPS or also Glonas, and Baidu. Which versions are the interfaces included e.g. MHL. Documentation of the features and limitations of the OS and Software cannot be found on the web page nor in the manual, direct questions to Samsung remain unanswered. Tablet-Club is a German website, and relies on its members to provide information and reviews of their own equipment which takes a bit longer compared to more commercial sites that receive hardware for reviews.
    Since advertised features and benchmarks have been reviewed enough by other sites, this one-on-one will not duplicate information already available, but complement them by focusing on details from test and use over the past month. Since I use my Note mainly as Android tablet, and not as WAN phone or data transfer device, or the advertised voice input you’ll find these and other details not covered covered.
    This summary is open source, however I require that you quote where you got the information/pictures from, which is the same as I did for the sources quoted at the end of this 1o1.
    Even though I could not cover all information on the complex Hard-, Software (e.g. Voice Control ) and APPs you‘ll find my experience and information on the Note 3 that I could verify since October 2013. While being a German web page, I wrote this 1o1 in English since translation from English sources takes a lot of time. For the same reason i choose to post it in a thread rather then an article, even so I tried for a few days which allows me to update the 1o1 later. Therefore if you feel something is incorrect or missing and you have the information, please sum it up for the benefit of others so others can benefit from it as well and post it at http://www.tabletclub.de/smartphones...x-q-and-a.html, and I’ll try to update this 101 asap.

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    Standard Changes from Note 2 to Note 3

    Changes from Note 2 to Note 3

    The Galaxy Note 3 is the successor to the Note 2, some features and details were improved others not. Samsung decided to use a now a Full-HD display, a faster CPU, memory up to 64 GB, (Android 4.3 now through update available), higher resolution for the back camera, and add the at present mostly useless USB 3.0 port, an authentication chip for connected hardware identification and for most regions in the world a region lock, while some seem to remain region lock free so far.
    Note 2 and Note 3 hardware differs with the region they are produced for. The Chinese Version (N9002 Dual) is the only one that has Dual-SIM support. For the Note 3 the main versions are SM-N900, N900W8, N9005 and may differ in CPU, GPU, the WAN-modem, the antennas needed to support the different bands, protocols and channel, the cameras and their (video mode) resolution. More detailed information can be found if you search through [c].
    User of older Note 2 user will most likely receive an update from Android 4.1.2 to 4.3 soon to, so “Beware of Greeks Samsung bearing gifts“ because if you’ll want the newer Android you’ll also get the region lock. Note 2 sold in in recent months already have it to. Unlike others I will start with what I consider the ugly side of Samsung.
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    Standard Android Versions, added features (e.g. in-/external memory support)

    Android Versions, added features (e.g. in-/external memory support)

    While the Note 3 has 4.3 the Notes 2 is still 4.1.2, until you update it to 4.3. Android 4.2 was skipped skipped.
    Unlike Google which wants to force users to use the cloud and buy the more expensive versions with more memory, Samsung provides a µSDXC Slot supporting up to 64 GB cards. When larger µSDXC will be available they should be supported too, since the standard foresees up to 2 TB.
    Here is one large benefit of owning a Note since Samsung does not only provide an internal µSDXC reader, but also provides r/w access to external USB memory connected via an OTG cable.
    Samsung also incorporates other valuable features and sensors, like e.g. the above mentioned S-Pen or phone support in their Android version, which you can read in other reviews.
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    Standard What’s ugly

    What’s ugly

    Samsung introduced for no apparent reason region locks in the Note 3 and Note 2 produced in the past month, as well as a number of other devices high priced models. You can identify those from a sticker on the package see Fig.: 1. While this would be understandable if it were in versions branded and sold by provider, it is not if you pay a premium for an unbranded model. If you never use your Samsung device outside the „region as defined by Samsung“ where you bought the Note and only with a SIM from a provider from this region you might not notice a thing. Samsung claims that if you have unlocked the device with a SIM from a provider within the region you bought it you can use it anywhere, or that’s what Samsung makes us want to believe.

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    Fig.: 1 Note 2 on top Note 3 on bottom both from October 2013 and with region lock information label

    While this worked for some, it did not for many many others meaning their devices is locked. Local Samsung Support is supposed to be able to provide unlock codes, but so far no foreign country support provided an unlock code when requested. It gets worse Samsung, since does not seem to know itself how to unlock devices. It is therefore unknown how much use and use-time is necessary, e.g. just a short call or SMS or a prolonged use or time frames of about 10 days seem to be necessary, to unlock phones or unlock previously locked phones. Unfortunately consumer rights don’t seem to exist for smart phone/(phone)tablet users. If it were a car, it would be unthinkable that it won’t start outside the country you bought it unless you have activated it first.
    While there is now a workaround to at least unlock unrooted devices on the xda forum [b], this should not be necessary and hopefully the EU-commission will take some action against Samsung if enough citizens will complain to them.
    While writing this (15.11.2013) some new information [6] was made available in a German press release. from Samsung.
    - To "unlock" you have to use the phone "insgesamt fünf Minuten" which means translate for 5‘ time with a regional SIM to “unlock“ it. This can be interpreted as a single/multiple in-/outgoing telephone calls of 5 minute duration.
    -You have to have an update to Android 4.3, what this means is not described since the N9005 came out of the box with Android 4.3.

    - If you have received your Note via mail order from another region, you have to contact the support from the land from where you "received" it. It must have been a German Samsung press release (no reference given) because they claim you have to contact the German support if you received it from Germany, to receive an unlock code. c't acknowledged that they have not heard about any case when the Samsung support from any other country provided an unlock code, but at least one c't reader got his phone unlocked this way.
    Rem.: In Europe sale from another EUR region member state is possible and may complicate things.
    There is presently no way how to verify if a Note 3 is still locked or how you can identify the country the Note was intended to be sold at, so you can contact the support in that country.
    I have to wait until I will get an out of region SIM to test my Note.
    If you have an older Note 2 be warned that Samsung also plans to gift you with this “region-lock feature“ with future Android updates. Again the Samsung customer is dammed if he accepts the update and screwed because it gets region locked and dammed of not having a recent android version if he does not.
    Furthermore another unwanted “present/feature“ from Samsung as reported from etnews [1] is that Samsung Electronics has installed an authenticity recognition chip in the accessories for Galaxy Note 3. In addition to blocking from accessories that are not authentic (= manufactured by Samsung) from use with your Note. It may even go as far as disabling some/all functions from accessories like a docking stand if Samsung decides so. Since so far, more then a month after the Note 3 has started to be available, only some accessories are listed, but none of them available, not even replacement battery!
    Then there is something called Knox and eFuse for which there is a lively discussion on [c].
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    Standard The bad

    The bad
    - misinformation or no information at all from Samsung


    Samsung does not provide the usual information on the Note 3 on their web pages nor do they provide it in the manual. Samsung emphasizes that the note has an µUSB 3.0 port, a µSDXC reader or GPS but not how fast they are or if they work at all. Ok the Note has an USB 3.0 connector, but what is this worth if you get the benefit of improved transfer speed only if you connect it with a windows PC and then only for about 10‘ at a time. How to activate it, is some program needed again no info. Forget about your USB 3.0-HDD, -USB-stick or -(µ)SD-reader they are not recognized on the Note 3 as USB 3.0 devices and therefore connected via the USB 2.0 port. What is USB 3.0 good for if , except as marketing gimmick for Samsung, if it does not allow me to transfer data at larger then USB 2.0 speeds?
    Is the internal µSDXC UHS-1 capable to gain a benefit from buying a UHS-1 64 GB µSDXC from Samsung?
    What version is the in the µUSB 3.0 integrated MHL 1.x, 2 or ..., which video modes are supported?
    Which of the operational (Global) Navigation Satellite Services does the receiver receive and process? Today in addition to the US GPS also the Russian Glonas can be receive globally, while the Chinese Baidu is limited to the Asian region.
    Information is not a gift that a manufacturer may bestow out of it’s grace upon their customer, but is a fundamental right of customers. However Samsung seems to think information is irrelevant. Some websites seem to have sources for information, the normal user can’t get, but you can’t verify e.g. Baidu reception unless you live in the Asian region.
    In short while the Notes has good hardware and software support, e.g. it allows r/w to external mass storage devices, only part of it is self explaining or documented at all. You need a lot of time to find out, what should be documented by Samsung. Either you do try it yourself by trial and error or you have to do a lot of reading, e.g. [c].
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    Standard The good

    The good

    Back, Front Sides of the Note 3


    The Note 2 and 3 provide more sensors in a compact and light case, provide even when looking films power for 6 to 7h and have a (Full)HD display. This is a large improvement when compared to Ultra Mobile Personal Computer (UMPC) windows XP based net books, which were mostly sold in Japan only.
    The smallest one with pen support that I tested, was the Kohjinsha PM. It had a 4.8“ resistive touch-panel TFT 1024 × 600 color display with pen for the panel, weighs just 345g dimensions 158 x ~94.2 x ~13.5 – 22 mm, up to 7 h operation, using an Atom Z515 CPU, Bluethooth 2.0, WLAN B/G, miniUSB 2.0, µSDHC-card-slot, headphone jack, mono-speaker, internal microphone/and webcam. The Kohjinsha SC3 with it’s slightly larger 7“ display provided even more interfaces and sensors (GPS, TV-turner, VGA, LAN, Express-Card/34 slot and stereo speaker), but is bulky and heavy when compared to the Note 3 (Fig.:1).
    While lacking many options of a windows based (convertible) tablet the Note 3 provides more sensors, GPS/GLONAS/Baidu GNSS receiver, gyro, compass, pressure and humidity sensor, a 5.5“ Full HD AMOLED-Touchscreen with Wacom pen support, USB 3.0, MHL 2, 13 Megapixel camera, all 2.4 and 5 GHz WLAN types, Bluetooth 4, NFC & Ant+ [c] in just 151,2 x 79,2 x 8,3 mm case weighing only 168 g. Quite a leap in miniaturization in the past 4 years.

    One-on-one tackling the Galaxy Note 3 (N9005)   - the good, the bad and the ugly side of the Note-galaxy-notes-2-and-3-handson-d_html_5c64d0ab.jpg
    Fig.: 2 Galaxy Note 3 compared in size to the Kohjinsha SC3

    In addition to an increase in the resolution of the camera to 13 Mega Pixel, an 100 mAh higher battery capacity, WLAN with ac support, you’ll find a rearranged layout of SIM-, µSDXC-reader, antennas and contacts in the Note 3.
    The Note 3 is slightly larger, old covers won’t fit any more. The USB 3.0 port, is without the support in Android nearly useless, unless you want to connect it to a windows PC. Even then you have to activate it first and it deactivates itself after 10 minutes. USB 3.0 specifications allow for 900 mA current draw from an USB 3.0 host, since the power connections from the µUSB 3.0 port are in the µUSB 2.0 part it would have been nice from Samsung to specify if this current is only available when the USB 3.0 data transfer is active or also if you use the port in USB 2.0 mode. Just in case you are confused like I was, any USB 3.0-memory-stick or -HDD connected via an USB 3.0 OTG-cable to the Note will run only as USB 2.0 device and therefore provide no faster data transfer!
    Both Notes provide a space in the case on the lower left for the pens. The pens are smaller then the larger S-pen from the Slate 7 X700T1A and don’t have the erase button on opposite to the pens tip (Fig.:3). The good news is that if you have a S- or Wacom-pen with the erase button on top, both Notes support the erase button.
    With the Note 3 Samsung introduces uses a rubber like pen tip, which offers an improved resistance, when writing on the display, similar to replacement tips available from Wacom, that can be fitted also to the larger S-Pen. This is a large improvement to the previous standard plastic pen tip.

    One-on-one tackling the Galaxy Note 3 (N9005)   - the good, the bad and the ugly side of the Note-galaxy-notes-2-and-3-handson-d_html_m2496c696.jpg
    Fig.: 4 opened rear of Galaxy Note 2 (white) on the left compared to Note 3 (black) on the right, USB 2.0 cable on the Note 2 and USB 3.0 on the Note
    Below Samsung Note 2 pen (white) on the left, Slate 7 X700T1A pen with the erase button on top in the middle, and Samsung Note 3 pen (black) on the right.
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    Standard Rear cover and Frame

    Rear cover and Frame

    While the Notes 2 rear cover has a smooth surface, Notes 3 has now grill-like sides and a back cover that is structured like leather, including a fake seam. The material is plastic, thin and but similar strong like blister packages that won’t tear when you try.
    In addition to being slightly larger in size then the Note 2, the structure of the side, size and location of the buttons were changed. While the Note 2 had smooth metallic looking frame the Note 3 now has grill like structure at the sides. The speaker grill moved from the rear in the Note 2 to the bottom side of the Note 3 (Fig.: 6)

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    Fig.5 Note 2 with flip cover on left and Note 3 with standard rear cover on the right.

    The main difference between both Notes is that the Note 2 (top) has an USB 2.0 port, while the Note 3 (bottom) has the so far a nearly useless USB 3.0 port.
    The Note 3 speaker grill is placed between the bay for the pen and the USB 3.0 connector. The empty pen bay can be seen in both notes at the left side.

    One-on-one tackling the Galaxy Note 3 (N9005)   - the good, the bad and the ugly side of the Note-galaxy-notes-2-and-3-handson-d_html_m20aeaebc.jpg
    Fig. 6: Note 2 with USB 2.0 port on top, Note 3 with USB 3.0 port on the bottom
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    Standard Antenna locations Blue tooth, GNSS, NFC, W(L)AN,

    Antenna locations Blue tooth, GNSS, NFC, W(L)AN,

    The Notes requires quite a few antennas to support all the wireless interfaces it provides. Depending on region and frequencies assigned the antennas for the different mobile-cell-bands, their size and location differ. The pictures below are taken from the FCC websites and shows the differences between the SM900 and the SM900R4.

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    Fig. 6: Antenna Location for SM900 [4]

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    Fig. 7: Antenna Location for SM900R4 [4]

    The location of the NFC antenna is shown in the right Fig.:8 and is part of the battery.
    Wireless charging requires a flat coil to receive power from the wireless charging stand. The Note has to be fitted with a flat coil is below the cover to allow wireless charging. When equipped with the coil it is placed on charging dock which has it’s own coil.
    As can be seen from the numerous antennas and their location, independent how you will mount or hold the Note 3, your hand or stand will influence one or more of the antennas. At worst if conductive areas are present the shading can totally shield the antenna and therefore reducing their effectiveness.
    As said this is worst for conductive surfaces. While larger batteries are available from third party supplier they will cover or shield shield some or more antennas.

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    Fig. 8: RF-Exposure Info [5]
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    Standard Display and Input options for the Note 3

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    The Note 3 has a glossy display, which can be a problem in daylight. It gets smeared when touched with fingers, unless the supplied or an external Wacom pen is used all the time. Display Brightness and contrast is sufficient in most cases even in bright places. The display resolution increased from 1280 x 720 in the Notes 2 to 1920 x 720 in the Notes 3. Due it’s Ameoled display the contrast is astonishing.
    When the screen is off it’s as black as when the Notes are switched off or because the battery is drained completely, this takes some some getting used to. In addition to fixed brightness settings, the brightness can also be adjusted automatically with the light sensor.

    Input options for the Note 3
    Both Notes offer a wide range of input control. You can choose between one and dual hand mode, finger or pen operation, mouse, either using a (Swype-)keyboard or with the pen handwriting recognition, or Mouse, keyboard and touch pad when connected via USB or Bluetooth.

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